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          Bill No:  AB 1363
          Author:   Davis (D)
          Amended:  4/13/09 in Assembly
          Vote:     21

           
           SENATE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE  :  6-0, 6/16/09
          AYES:  Leno, Benoit, Cedillo, Hancock, Huff, Steinberg
          NO VOTE RECORDED:  Wright

           SENATE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE  :  Senate Rule 28.8

           ASSEMBLY FLOOR  :  77-0, 5/18/09 - See last page for vote


           SUBJECT  :    Handguns:  open  carry licenses

           SOURCE  :     Los Angeles County Sheriffs Department


           DIGEST  :    This bill clarifies that any licenses issued, as  
          specified, by a sheriff or police chief in a jurisdiction  
          with a population under 200,000, to openly carry a loaded  
          handgun, are valid only within the county in which they are  
          issued.

           ANALYSIS  :    Existing law provides that, subject to a  
          number of specified exceptions, a person is guilty of  
          carrying a loaded firearm when he or she carries a loaded  
          firearm on his or her person or in a vehicle while in any  
          public place or on any public street in an incorporated  
          city or in any public place or on any public street in a  
          prohibited area of unincorporated territory.  (Penal Code  
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          Section 12031(a)(1).)

          Existing law provides that carrying a loaded firearm in  
          public, as specified, is punishable, as follows:

          1.Where the person previously has been convicted of any  
            felony, or of any crime made punishable by this chapter,  
            as a felony.

          2.Where the firearm is stolen and the person knew or had  
            reasonable cause to believe that it was stolen as a  
            felony.

          3.Where the person is an active participant in a criminal  
            street gang, as defined, as a felony.

          4.Where the person is not in lawful possession of the  
            firearm, as defined in this section, or is within a class  
            of persons prohibited from possessing or acquiring a  
            firearm, as specified, as a felony.

          5.Where the person has been convicted of a crime against a  
            person or property, or of a narcotics or dangerous drug  
            violation, by imprisonment in the state prison, or by  
            imprisonment in a county jail not to exceed one year, by  
            a fine not to exceed $1,000, or by both that imprisonment  
            and fine.

          6.Where the person is not listed with the Department of  
            Justice as the registered owner of the pistol, revolver,  
            or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the  
            person, by imprisonment in the state prison, or by  
            imprisonment in a county jail not to exceed one year, or  
            by a fine not to exceed $1,000, or both that fine and  
            imprisonment.

          7.In all cases other than those specified above, as a  
            misdemeanor, punishable by imprisonment in a county jail  
            not to exceed one year, by a fine not to exceed $1,000,  
            or by both that imprisonment and fine.
          (Penal Code Section 12031(a)(2).)

          Existing law provides an exception to the prohibition  
          against carrying a loaded firearm in public for holders of  







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          licenses to carry concealed handguns.  (Penal Code Section  
          12031(b)(6).)

          Existing law provides that the sheriff of a county or the  
          chief or other head of a municipal police department of any  
          city or city and county, upon proof that the person  
          applying is of good moral character, that good cause exists  
          for the issuance, and that the person applying either lives  
          or works in the county (or city in the case of a police  
          chief), as specified, and has completed a course of  
          training as specified, may issue to that person a license  
          to carry a pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of  
          being concealed upon the person in either one of the  
          following formats:

          1.A license to carry concealed a pistol, revolver, or other  
            firearm capable of being concealed upon the person.

          2.Where the population of the county is less than 200,000,  
            persons according to the most recent federal decennial  
            census, a license to carry loaded and exposed in that  
            county a pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of  
            being concealed upon the person.
          (Penal Code Section 12050(a)(1)(A)&(B), emphasis added.)

          Existing law provides that, if the license is one to carry  
          concealed a pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of  
          being concealed upon the person, then it may not be revoked  
          solely because the licensee changes his or her place of  
          residence to another county if the licensee has not  
          breached any conditions or restrictions set forth in the  
          license and has not become prohibited by state or federal  
          law from possessing, receiving, owning, or purchasing a  
          firearm.  However, any license issued to private citizens,  
          as specified, shall expire 90 days after the licensee moves  
          from the county of issuance if the licensee's place of  
          residence was the basis for issuance of the license.   
          (Penal Code Section 12050(f)(4)(B).)

          Existing law provides that a license to carry a concealed  
          handgun may be issued for any amount of time not to exceed  
          two years form the date of issuance, unless issued to a  
          judge or magistrate (valid for up to three years) or  
          specified custodial employees or reserve peace officers  







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          (valid for up to four years).  (Penal Code Section  
          12050(a)(2).)

          Existing law provides that if a license to carry a pistol,  
          revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon  
          the person is granted by the sheriff or a county to an  
          applicant based on the fact that the applicant spends a  
          substantial amount of time employed within the county, such  
          a license is valid only in the county issued and is valid  
          for any period of time not to exceed 90 days from the date  
          of issuance.  (Penal Code Section 12050(a)(2)(A)(ii).)

          Existing law provides that if the license is one to carry  
          loaded and exposed a pistol, revolver, or other firearm  
          capable of being concealed upon the person, the license  
          shall be revoked immediately if the licensee changes his or  
          her place of residence to another county.  (Penal Code  
          Section 12050(f)(4)(B)&(C).)

          This bill clarifies that any licenses issued, as specified,  
          by a sheriff or police chief in a county with a population  
          under 200,000, to openly carry a loaded handgun, are valid  
          only within the county in which they are issued.

           FISCAL EFFECT  :    Appropriation:  No   Fiscal Com.:  Yes    
          Local:  Yes

           SUPPORT  :   (Verified  6/29/09)

          Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department (source)
          California Brady Campaign Chapters
          Legal Community Against Violence

           ARGUMENTS IN SUPPORT  :    According to the author's office,  
          "Section 12050 of the California Penal Code allows the  
          sheriff of the county or a chief of police to issue a  
          concealed weapons permit (also known as a CCW permit) to  
          applicants they deem acceptable according to prescriptions  
          by law.  If approved, the applicant can carry a concealed  
          and loaded gun.  This section also allows both sheriff's  
          and police chiefs in a county with a population of less  
          than 200,000 to allow an applicant to carry a loaded and  
          exposed weapon, but only in that county with a population  
          of less than 200,000.







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          "Some of these people that have been authorized to carry a  
          loaded and exposed weapon have been going to other  
          counties, with a population of over 200,000, with the  
          loaded and exposed weapon, which is a violation of their  
          CCW authorization.  Currently in law, Section 12031 of the  
          California Penal Code, which is the law making it illegal  
          to carry a loaded firearm in public, provides for an  
          exception to an individual who has a CCW permit.  However,  
          the exception does not appropriately address the two  
          different CCW authorizations.  By making a simple language  
          change to the exception, Section 12031 will properly  
          address the two different CCW authorizations and provide a  
          penalty for individuals who abuse their CCW privileges."


           ASSEMBLY FLOOR  : 
          AYES:  Adams, Ammiano, Anderson, Arambula, Beall, Bill  
            Berryhill, Tom Berryhill, Blakeslee, Block, Blumenfield,  
            Brownley, Buchanan, Caballero, Charles Calderon, Carter,  
            Chesbro, Conway, Cook, Coto, Davis, De La Torre, De Leon,  
            DeVore, Duvall, Emmerson, Evans, Feuer, Fletcher, Fong,  
            Fuentes, Fuller, Furutani, Gaines, Galgiani, Garrick,  
            Gilmore, Hagman, Hall, Harkey, Hayashi, Hernandez, Hill,  
            Huber, Huffman, Jeffries, Jones, Knight, Krekorian, Lieu,  
            Logue, Bonnie Lowenthal, Ma, Mendoza, Miller, Monning,  
            Nava, Nestande, Niello, Nielsen, John A. Perez, V. Manuel  
            Perez, Portantino, Ruskin, Salas, Silva, Skinner, Smyth,  
            Solorio, Audra Strickland, Swanson, Torlakson, Torres,  
            Torrico, Tran, Villines, Yamada, Bass
          NO VOTE RECORDED:  Eng, Price, Saldana


          RJG:cm  6/29/09   Senate Floor Analyses 

                         SUPPORT/OPPOSITION:  SEE ABOVE

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