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          Date of Hearing:   May 1, 2012

                           ASSEMBLY COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY
                                  Mike Feuer, Chair
                     AB 1875 (Gatto) - As Amended: April 24, 2012

                              As Proposed to be Amended
           
          SUBJECT  :  Civil Procedure: Depositions 

           KEY ISSUE  :  Should the deposition of a person in a civil action 
          be limited to seven hours, unless parties stipulate otherwise or 
          a court finds circumstances that justify additional time?

           FISCAL EFFECT  :  As currently in print this bill is keyed 
          non-fiscal.

                                      SYNOPSIS
          
          This bill would limit a deposition in a civil action to one day 
          of seven hours, unless the parties stipulate otherwise or if the 
          court determines that circumstances justify additional time.  
          The Federal Rules of Civil Procedure already limit depositions 
          in this manner; California law does not.  Although existing 
          state law allows a deponent to move to terminate a deposition in 
          order to stop "unwarranted annoyance, embarrassment, or 
          oppression, or undue burden or expense," it does not create a 
          presumptive limitation on the duration of a deposition, as 
          federal law does.  According to the author, the lack of any time 
          limitations in California law can sometimes subject persons to 
          needlessly long and repetitious questioning that allegedly 
          serves no other purpose than to harass the deponent or delay the 
          proceeding.  In cases that require more questioning or where 
          circumstances have delayed or impeded the deposition, this bill 
          would permit a court to order additional time.  Additionally, if 
          the deponent were ill or elderly, the seven-hour deposition 
          could be extended over two or more days.  Parties could also 
          stipulate to longer depositions.  The bill is supported by the 
          Consumer Attorneys of California and several labor and consumer 
          groups, among others.  Opponents of this bill, including the 
          California Defense Counsel, note that such a limitation is 
          especially inapt in complex litigation and at the very least the 
          bill should be amended to account for this.  The author will 
          take one technical amendment in this Committee, and has 
          committed to work with Committee counsel and all interested 








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          parties to try to address remaining concerns. 

           SUMMARY  :  Limits a civil deposition of any person to one day of 
          seven hours, except as specified.  Specifically this bill:

          1)Provides, unless ordered by the court, that a deposition in a 
            civil case shall be limited to one day of seven hours or no 
            more than seven hours over two days if a witness is ill or 
            over 65 years of age.  Specifies that the court shall allow 
            additional time if needed to fairly examine the deponent or if 
            the deponent, another person, or any other circumstance 
            impedes or delays the examination. 

          2)Specifies that the limitation described above shall not apply 
            if the parties have stipulated that this section will not 
            apply to a specific deposition or the entire proceeding. 

           
          EXISTING LAW  : 

          1)Permits a party to a civil action to take an oral deposition 
            of any person, including other parties to the action, upon 
            service of a proper notice indicating the date, time, and 
            location of the deposition, as well as notice of any materials 
            that must be produced at the deposition.  (Code of Civil 
            Procedure Section 2025 et seq.) )

          2)Permits any party or deponent, at any time before, during, or 
            after a deposition, to seek an order from the court protecting 
            the deponent from unwarranted annoyance, embarrassment, or 
            oppression, or undue burden or expense, and authorizes a 
            deposition officer to suspend the taking of testimony to 
            enable the party or deponent to move for such protective 
            order.  Specifies that the protective order may impose certain 
            conditions or limitations on the deposition, including an 
            order that the deposition be terminated or not taken at all.  
            (Code of Civil Procedure Sections 2025.420 and 2025.470.)  

          3)Provides, under federal rules, that unless otherwise 
            stipulated or ordered by the court, a deposition is limited to 
            one day of seven hours.  Specifies that a federal court may 
            allow additional time if needed to fairly examine the deponent 
            or if the deponent, another person, or any other circumstance 
            impedes or delays the examination.  (Federal Rules of Civil 
            Procedure R. 30(d)(1).) 








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           COMMENTS  :  Existing law allows a party to a civil action to take 
          an oral deposition of any person, including another party or the 
          other party's witness, as part of the pre-trial civil discovery 
          process.  This testimony is reduced to writing for purposes of 
          preparing for trial or, under some circumstances, for use at 
          trial.  California's Civil Discovery Act sets forth a number of 
          rules governing the means and times for notifying deponents and 
          the manner in which depositions must be conducted.  In many ways 
          California law parallels the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure on 
          these matters.  For example, both federal rules and state law 
          permit a deponent or party to seek a protective order 
          terminating the deposition if it becomes overly oppressive or 
          burdensome.  However, while the federal rules presumptively 
          limit depositions to one day of seven hours per deponent - 
          unless circumstances warrant additional time or the parties 
          stipulate otherwise - California law contains no such 
          limitation.  According to the author and supporters of this 
          bill, the lack of any limitation in state law has led to 
          needlessly long and repetitive questioning of deponents, for 
          apparently no other purpose than to delay the proceeding or to 
          discourage a plaintiff from proceeding with a suit. 

          This bill, therefore, would adopt the language of Federal Rules 
          of Civil Procedure by limiting a civil deposition, as a general 
          rule, to one day of seven hours, albeit with one minor 
          exception.  Because deponents who are ill or elderly may have 
          difficulty sitting for a deposition for seven hours straight, 
          this bill would allow their seven hours of deposition to be 
          spread over two or more days.  This exception is not contained 
          in the federal rules.  

           A Matter of What is Presumptive  :  By adopting the federal rule 
          that a deposition shall be limited to seven hours unless 
          otherwise stipulated or ordered, this bill effectively reverses 
          the presumption in existing state law.  Under existing law, that 
          is, there is no limitation on the length of a deposition unless 
          the the parties stipulate to limitations or the court orders a 
          limitation.  This bill, on the other hand, would begin with the 
          presumption that a deposition is limited to seven hours unless 
          the parties stipulate otherwise or the court orders an 
          extension.  

           Some Other Differences between the California and Federal Rules:  
           Supporters contend, among other things, that this bill merely 








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          adopts the one-day of seven hours from the Federal Rules of 
          Civil Procedure (FRCP), and that if the rule is workable in the 
          federal courts then it will also work in the state courts.  
          There is some justification for this position.  Federal courts, 
          after all, handle litigation every bit as complex as litigation 
          handled in California courts.  There are also important 
          differences between state and federal courts, some of which may 
          argue for a greater presumptive limits on the length of 
          depositions in state court and some of which may cut the other 
          way.  These differences include case volume and court resources, 
          the general type and complexity of the issues in many cases, 
          practice styles of counsel, rules of procedure, court 
          "cultures," and the availability of judicial supervision.  The 
          author and sponsor have engaged in and are committed to working 
          with Committee counsel and continuing a dialog involving the 
          courts and other court users in an effort to develop consensus 
          on an approach that will promote fair outcomes and the efficient 
          and economical administration of justice.

           Proposed Technical Amendment  :  The author wishes to take the 
          following technical amendment that removes a redundancy in the 
          bill in print:

               -      On page 2 line 4 delete: "or unless otherwise 
                 stipulated to"

           ARGUMENTS IN SUPPORT  :  According to the author this bill will 
          reduce the time and costs of litigation for all parties by 
          bringing state law "in line with federal law by specifying that 
          a deposition is limited to one day of seven hours."  

          The Consumer Attorneys of California (CAOC) argue that "placing 
          a presumptive limit on deposition testimony can protect the 
          health of ill deponents, save litigation costs for all parties 
          and give California courts the discretion to promote fairness in 
          every case."  CAOC contends that federal law already sensibly 
          limits depositions to one day of seven hours, "unless the Court 
          orders or the parties stipulate otherwise based on the needs of 
          the case."  However, because state law has no such limitation, 
          CAOC contends that "individuals deposed in a California state 
          case can be subjected to marathon question-and-answer sessions 
          without the same protections as in a federal case."  Recognizing 
          that some types of litigation "are too complex for a seven-hour 
          deposition to examine all of the pertinent issues in the case," 
          CAOC points out that this bill reasonably empowers judges to 








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          permit longer deposition periods when justified by the facts or 
          circumstances of the case.  CAOC claims that there are "many 
          examples of deposition abuse," and cites a few anecdotes in 
          which ill or elderly plaintiffs were subjected to several days 
          of "repetitive and pointless" questioning.  CAOC contends that 
          in some cases strategic delays brought about by extended 
          depositions "increase the possibility that ill or elderly 
          plaintiffs will die or drop their cases, making it impossible 
          for wrongdoers to be held accountable." 

          The California Federation of Labor (CFL) supports this bill for 
          similar reasons, arguing that "workers seeking to have their day 
          in court are often subjected to aggressive deposition sessions 
          that needlessly delay resolution."  CFL claims that workers 
          "suffering from injuries, illness, or exposure to workplace 
          chemicals are particularly harmed by the multi-day deposition 
          practice."  CFL claims that there are reports of 
          asbestos-related cases "where depositions were extended for so 
          many days that the worker died before the deposition was 
          completed."  CFL concludes that limiting depositions to one day 
          of seven hours except where longer sessions are agreed to by 
          stipulation or ordered by the court will protect vulnerable 
          plaintiffs while maintaining flexibility.  Several other labor 
          groups and consumer groups support this bill for similar reasons 
          as CAOC and the CFL. 

           ARGUMENTS IN OPPOSITION UNLESS AMENDED  :  The California Defense 
          Counsel (CDC) opposes this bill unless it is amended.  CDC 
          argues that while depositions of one day of seven hours "may be 
          appropriate in many cases, in many others seven hours simply 
          will be insufficient for lawyers to obtain the information 
          necessary to defend their clients."  CDC cites in particular 
          "multi-party cases, complex cases, cases which are 
          expert-witness intensive, and more."  CDC therefore opposes this 
          bill unless it is amended to "to accommodate the tremendous 
          disparity in case types and complexity, without need to burden 
          the courts with discovery motions."  CDC also claims that any 
          argument that what works in the federal courts "should be 
          sufficient in state courts is inappropriate."  In particular, 
          CDC claims that the federal rules "are fundamentally different 
          in terms of discovery," and "those differences explain in large 
          measure why state depositions might take longer than in the 
          federal system." 

           ARGUMENTS IN OPPOSITION  :  The Civil Justice Association of 








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          California (CJAC) opposes this bill because it will 
          "unnecessarily limit the length of depositions in California."  
          CJAC claims that California has always favored liberal discovery 
          in litigation and therefore the state's discovery statutes "are 
          intended to give greater assistance in ascertaining truth, in 
          checking and preventing perjury, in detecting fraudulent and 
          sham claims and defenses, in gathering otherwise difficult to 
          prove facts, in educating parties as to real value of their 
          claims and defenses, in expediting litigation, in preventing 
          surprise, and in simplifying and narrowing issues."  (Citing 
          Greyhound Corp. v. Superior Court (1961) 56 Cal. 2d 355.)  
          Adopting rules that run counter to these considerations, CJAC 
          argues, would "warrant significant justification."  CJAC 
          believes that such limitations would be especially unjustified 
          in "the complex civil arena, where such a requirement would fail 
          to provide a fair opportunity to obtain relevant and essential 
          information."  Moreover, CJAC contends that existing law already 
          allows any person subject to a deposition "to ask a court to 
          limit or even deny a deposition for a number of reasons."  CJAC 
          concludes that this bill's "broad limitation appears to be 
          unwarranted."
           
           The California Association of Joint Powers Authorities (CAJPA) 
          argues that this bill "unnecessarily places new limits on length 
          of time taken in depositions."  CAJPA is an organization of 
          joint powers authorities, made up of one or more local 
          government entities.  These joint power authorities often manage 
          an array of "workers compensation, liability, property, and 
          other insurance and loss control-related obligations of local 
          governments."  CAJPA fears that this bill will "put the defense 
          of a public entity at risk," because public entity cases "can be 
          sufficiently complex that the restriction proposed by AB 1875 
          would unduly limit the ability to adequately defend cases."  As 
          with the other opponents, CAJPA believes limiting depositions is 
          especially inappropriate in complex, multi-party cases. 

           REGISTERED SUPPORT / OPPOSITION  :   

           Support 
           
          Asbestos Disease Awareness Organization 
          California Alliance for Retired Americans
          California Board of the Amalgamated Transit Union 
          California Conference of Machinists
          California Federation of Labor








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          California Teamsters Public Affairs Council
          Communications Workers of America, AFL-CIO District 0
          Consumer Attorneys of California
          Consumer Federation of California 
          Engineers and Scientists of California, IFPTE Local 20
          International Longshore and Warehouse Union 
          Jockeys' Guild
          Mesothelioma Applied Research Foundation
          National Lawyers Guild, Labor & Employment Committee  
          Northern California District of the ILWU
          Professional and Technical Engineers, IFPTE Local 21
          UNITE HERE, AFL-CIO
          United Food & Commercial Workers Western States Council 
          Utility Workers Union of America, Local 132, AFL-CIO
          Worksafe, Inc. 

           Opposition 
           
          California Association of Joint Powers Authorities 
          California Defense Counsel (unless amended)
          Civil Justice Association of California 

           
          Analysis Prepared by  :    Thomas Clark / JUD. / (916) 319-2334