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           SENATE COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC SAFETY
                             Senator Loni Hancock, Chair
                                2015 - 2016  Regular 

          Bill No:    AB 651        Hearing Date:    June 21, 2016    
          
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          |Author:    |Cooper                                               |
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          |Version:   |May 31, 2016                                         |
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          |Urgency:   |No                     |Fiscal:    |Yes              |
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          |Consultant:|JRD                                                  |
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                 Subject:  Public Safety Officers and Firefighters:   
 
                            Investigations and Interviews



          HISTORY

          Source:   Sacramento County Deputy Sheriff's Association; Los  
                    Angeles County Professional Peace Officers  
                    Association; California State Lodge, Fraternal Order  
                    of Police 

          Prior Legislation:SB 388 (Lieu)-vetoed, 2014
                         SB 313 (De León) - Ch. 779, Stats. 2013
                         AB 2543 (Alejo) - failed passage in Senate Public  
          Safety, 2012
                         SB 638 (De León) - died in Senate Public Safety,  
          2011
                         AB 220 (Bass) - Ch. 591, Stats 2007
                         AB 1873 (Koretz) - Ch. 63, Stats. 2002
                         AB 2040 (Diaz) - Ch. 391, Stats. 2002
                         AB 2559 (Cardoza) - Ch. 971, Stats. 2000
                         AB 1016 (Hertzberg) - Ch. 25, Stats. 1998
                         AB 3434 (House) - Ch. 1108, Stats. 1996

          Support:  AFSCME, Local 685; Association for Los Angeles Deputy  
                    Sheriffs; California Association of Highway Patrolmen;  
                    CAL FIRE Local 2881; LIUNA Locals 777 & 792; Long  







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                    Beach Police Officers Association; Los Angeles Police  
                    Protective League; Los Angeles County Probation  
                    Officers' Union; Orange County Deputy Sheriffs; Orange  
                    County Professional Firefighters Association, Local  
                    3631; Riverside Sheriffs Association; Santa Ana Police  
                    Officers Association 


          Opposition:American Civil Liberties Union; California  
                    Association of Joint Power Authorities; California  
                    Police Chiefs Association; California State  
                    Association of Counties; California State Sheriffs'  
                    Association; Chief Probation Officers of California  
                    Rural County Representatives of California; Emergency  
                    Medical Services Administrators Association; League of  
                    California Cities


          Assembly Floor Vote:                 70 - 3


          





          PURPOSE

          The purpose of this bill is to allow a firefighter or peace  
          officer witness to have a representative present when questioned  
          by their employer regarding the investigation of another peace  
          officer of firefighter, if that interview may lead to  
          disciplinary action against the witness, as specified. 
          
          Existing law establishes the Firefighters Procedural Bill of  
          Rights Act (FPOR) that governs the procedures for the  
          investigation and interrogation of a firefighter for alleged  
          misconduct.  (Government Code § 3250, et seq.)  FPOR  
          specifically provides that the interrogation of a firefighter,  
          who is the subject of an investigation that could lead to  
          punitive action, by his or her commanding officer, or any other  
          member designated by the employing department or licensing or  
          certifying agency, must be conducted in accordance with  








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          Government Code section 3253.  One of the protections afforded  
          in Government Code section 3253 is the ability to have a  
          representative present at the interrogation.  (Government Code §  
          3253(i).)   

          Existing law establishes Public Safety Officers Procedural Bill  
          of Rights Act (POBOR) that controls how the investigation and  
          interrogation of a public safety officer for alleged misconduct  
          occurs.  (Government Code § 3300, et seq.)  POBOR provides that  
          the interrogation of a peace officer, who is the subject of an  
          investigation that could lead to punitive action, by his or her  
          employer, must be conducted in accordance with Government Code  
          section 3303.  One of the protections afforded in Government  
          Code section 3303 is the ability to have a representative  
          present at the interrogation.  (Government Code § 3303(i).)   

          This bill amends both FPOR and POBOR to provide a firefighter or  
          peace officer, in an investigation on matters that may result in  
          punitive action against a firefighter or peace officer, who is  
          not formally under investigation but is interviewed as a witness  
          regarding an investigation, the right to representation in the  
          interview at the time that the witness has reasonable cause to  
          believe that the interrogation may result in punitive action  
          against him or her. The firefighter or peace officer may choose  
          a representative who is reasonably available to represent the  
          firefighter at an interview that has been reasonably scheduled  
          and the representative shall be permitted to be present at all  
          during the interview. The representative shall not be a person  
          subject to the same investigation. The representative shall not  
          be required to disclose, or be subject to punitive action for  
          refusing to disclose, any information received from the  
          firefighter being interviewed as part of the investigation for  
          noncriminal matters. 

          This bill provides that if a firefighter or peace officer  
          requests representation in an interview and the request is  
          denied, statements taken during the interview after the request  
          is made shall not be used against the firefighter in a  
          disciplinary proceeding and shall not be used in determining or  
          imposing a punitive action against the firefighter.

                    RECEIVERSHIP/OVERCROWDING CRISIS AGGRAVATION

          For the past several years this Committee has scrutinized  








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          legislation referred to its jurisdiction for any potential  
          impact on prison overcrowding.  Mindful of the United States  
          Supreme Court ruling and federal court orders relating to the  
          state's ability to provide a constitutional level of health care  
          to its inmate population and the related issue of prison  
          overcrowding, this Committee has applied its "ROCA" policy as a  
          content-neutral, provisional measure necessary to ensure that  
          the Legislature does not erode progress in reducing prison  
          overcrowding.   

          On February 10, 2014, the federal court ordered California to  
          reduce its in-state adult institution population to 137.5% of  
          design capacity by February 28, 2016, as follows:   

                 143% of design bed capacity by June 30, 2014;
                 141.5% of design bed capacity by February 28, 2015; and,
                 137.5% of design bed capacity by February 28, 2016. 

          In December of 2015 the administration reported that as "of  
          December 9, 2015, 112,510 inmates were housed in the State's 34  
          adult institutions, which amounts to 136.0% of design bed  
          capacity, and 5,264 inmates were housed in out-of-state  
          facilities.  The current population is 1,212 inmates below the  
          final court-ordered population benchmark of 137.5% of design bed  
          capacity, and has been under that benchmark since February  
          2015."  (Defendants' December 2015 Status Report in Response to  
          February 10, 2014 Order, 2:90-cv-00520 KJM DAD PC, 3-Judge  
          Court, Coleman v. Brown, Plata v. Brown (fn. omitted).)  One  
          year ago, 115,826 inmates were housed in the State's 34 adult  
          institutions, which amounted to 140.0% of design bed capacity,  
          and 8,864 inmates were housed in out-of-state facilities.   
          (Defendants' December 2014 Status Report in Response to February  
          10, 2014 Order, 2:90-cv-00520 KJM DAD PC, 3-Judge Court, Coleman  
          v. Brown, Plata v. Brown (fn. omitted).)  
           
          While significant gains have been made in reducing the prison  
          population, the state must stabilize these advances and  
          demonstrate to the federal court that California has in place  
          the "durable solution" to prison overcrowding "consistently  
          demanded" by the court.  (Opinion Re: Order Granting in Part and  
          Denying in Part Defendants' Request For Extension of December  
          31, 2013 Deadline, NO. 2:90-cv-0520 LKK DAD (PC), 3-Judge Court,  
          Coleman v. Brown, Plata v. Brown (2-10-14).  The Committee's  
          consideration of bills that may impact the prison population  








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          therefore will be informed by the following questions:

              Whether a proposal erodes a measure which has contributed  
               to reducing the prison population;
              Whether a proposal addresses a major area of public safety  
               or criminal activity for which there is no other  
               reasonable, appropriate remedy;
              Whether a proposal addresses a crime which is directly  
               dangerous to the physical safety of others for which there  
               is no other reasonably appropriate sanction; 
              Whether a proposal corrects a constitutional problem or  
               legislative drafting error; and
              Whether a proposal proposes penalties which are  
               proportionate, and cannot be achieved through any other  
               reasonably appropriate remedy.


          COMMENTS

          1.Need for Legislation 

          According to the author:

               Current law under the Police Officer's Bill of Rights  
               (POBR) does not specify that a witness can have  
               representation present in an internal affairs investigation  
               interrogation.  However, some agencies do voluntarily allow  
               for the representation of witnesses during an internal  
               affairs interrogation and some do not. 

               AB 651 seeks to clarify and continue the current practice  
               of agencies who wish to allow, or will allow in the future,  
               witness representation.  It also seeks to clarify that the  
               rights of cities or counties to adopt measures or  
               ordinances formalizing and making witness representation a  
               right, or formalizing witness representation through the  
               collective bargaining process is allowable.


          2.Effect of the Legislation
          
          This bill would give a peace officer or firefighter witness the  
          right to have a representative present when being interviewed  
          about a co-worker's misconduct, if that interview may lead to  








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          punitive action against the witness officer.  The bill further  
          provides that if a firefighter or peace officer request  
          representation in an interview and the request is denied,  
          statements taken during the interview after the request is made  
          cannot be used against the firefighter in a disciplinary  
          proceeding and shall not be used in determining or imposing a  
          punitive action against the firefighter.

          The POBOR was enacted in 1976 and provided law enforcement  
          officers with a variety of procedural protections.  Binkley v.  
          City of Long Beach (1993) 16 Cal.App.4th 1795, explains that: 

               [T]he Act: (1) secures to public safety officers the right  
               to engage in political activity, when off duty and out of  
               uniform, and to seek election to or serve as a member of  
               the governing board of a school district; (2) prescribes  
               certain protections which must be afforded officers during  
               interrogations which could lead to punitive action; (3)  
               gives the right to review and respond in writing to adverse  
               comments entered in an officer's personnel file; (4)  
               provides that officers may not be compelled to submit to  
               polygraph examinations; (5) prohibits searches of officers'  
               personal storage spaces or lockers except under specified  
               circumstances; (7) gives officers the right to  
               administrative appeal when any punitive action is taken  
               against them, or they are denied promotion on grounds other  
               than merit; and (8) protects officers against retaliation  
               for the exercise of any right conferred by the Act.   
               [Citations omitted.]

          POBOR outlines specific rules that an employer has to follow  
          when conducting an interrogation of an employee who is under  
          investigation.  Government Code section 3203(i) requires that an  
          officer have the opportunity to have a representative, of his or  
          her choice, at an interrogation if: 

               1.     The officer is under investigation for misconduct;  
                 and
               2.     The interrogation focuses on matters that "are  
                 likely to result in punitive action."

          AB 220 (Bass), Chapter 591, Statutes of 2007, created FPOR.   
          FPOR provides firefighters, paramedics and emergency medical  
          technicians with rights that are virtually identical to the  








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          rights provided to peace officers in POBOR.  Like POBOR, FPOR  
          establishes rules governing the interrogation of an employee who  
          is under investigation. 

          Government Code section 3953(i) requires that a firefighter have  
          the opportunity to have a representative, of his or her choice,  
          at an interrogation if:

               1.     The firefighter is under investigation for  
                 misconduct, and
               2.     The interrogation focuses on matters that "may  
                 result in punitive action."

          AB 651 would expand the right to have a representative to peace  
          officer and firefighter witnesses being interviewed about a  
          co-worker's misconduct, if that interview may result in punitive  
          action against the witness.  

          3.   Senate Bill 388 Veto Message

          This bill is substantially similar to SB 388 (2014). The  
          Governor vetoed that bill stating: 

               I am returning Senate Bill 388 without my signature.

               This bill would allow peace officers and firefighters  
               who have witnessed an alleged misconduct incident to  
               have a representative present during questioning if  
               there is a chance that the witness could become the  
               subject of punitive action. 

               The need for this bill is unclear. Under current law,  
               as soon as an employer learns during an interview that  
               the witness is subject to punitive action, questioning  
               must stop until a representative is provided if  
               requested by the employee. If this doesn't happen, any  
               information obtained can be excluded at trial.

          4.  Argument in Support

          According to the Long Beach Police Officers Association: 
               
              This bill seeks to clarify and ensure procedural due process  
              for peace officers and firefighters during investigations,  








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              including that witness peace officers or firefighters are  
              entitled to the right of representation consistent with Public  
              Safety Officers Procedural Bill of Rights (POBOR) and the  
              Firefighters Procedural Bill of Rights (FPBOR).  

              The right to representation is a foundational right in POBOR  
              and FPBOR.  In many departments, peace officers and  
              firefighters are routinely allowed representation when being  
              questioned as a witness under the existing provisions of POBOR  
              and FPBOR.

              Unfortunately, some departments have recently interpreted  
              Government Code Sections 3253 and 3303 in a manner to deny  
              peace officer and firefighter representation requests. This new  
              interpretation has not only led to reduced rights, but has also  
              created unnecessary and costly litigation. 

              As a retired police captain, we applaud your sense of fairness  
              and your willingness provide a mechanism for those without this  
              protection to achieve it.  The permissive language in this bill  
              is not ideal from our perspective.  However, we recognize it to  
              be a rational, deliberative compromise that protects local  
              control and management's authority.

              AB 651 will simply provide an opportunity for peace officers  
              and firefighters to secure witness representation in areas  
              where it is currently unavailable.  AB 651 is not a mandate,  
              but would require future action by a local agency or adoption  
              via the collective bargaining process to become effective.
          



          5.  Argument in Opposition

          According to the California State Sheriffs' Association: 

            The Public Safety Officers Procedural Bill of Rights balances  
            the public interest in maintaining the efficiency and  
            integrity of a law enforcement agency with a peace officer's  
            interest in receiving fair treatment. As such, it requires  
            certain protections when an officer faces a formal  
            investigation into matters that are likely to result in  
            punitive action by an employer. "Even if not criminal in  








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            nature, acts of a police officer that tend to impair the  
            public's trust in its police department can be harmful to the  
            department's efficiency and morale. Thus, when allegations of  
            officer misconduct are raised, it is essential that the  
            department conduct a prompt, thorough, and fair  
            investigation." (Pasadena Police Officers Assn. v. City of  
            Pasadena (1990) 51 Cal.3d 564, 568.)



            This measure is similar to last year's Senate Bill 388 (Lieu),  
            which was vetoed by the Governor.  We believe this measure  
            could ultimately interfere with a law enforcement agency's  
            ability to discipline officers for engaging in job-related  
            misconduct.  We are further concerned that this bill will  
            unnecessarily prolong investigations and result in increased  
            agency costs.  Discouraging officers from cooperating in  
            investigations by encouraging representation during any  
            questioning that may involve officer discipline could chill  
            investigations and result in the retention of officers that  
            have engaged in noncriminal misconduct. 


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