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          SENATE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
                             Senator Ricardo Lara, Chair
                            2015 - 2016  Regular  Session

          SB 947 (Pan) - Public assistance:  personal interviews
          
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          |Version:  March 31, 2016        |Policy Vote:  Human Services    |
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          |Urgency:  No                    |Mandate:  Yes                   |
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          |Hearing Date:  April 18, 2016   |Consultant:  Jolie Onodera      |
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          This bill meets the criteria for referral to the Suspense File. 

          

          Bill  
          Summary:  SB 947 would authorize county human services agencies  
          to conduct personal interviews for CalWORKs eligibility  
          applicants telephonically or through electronic means. This bill  
          would provide that an in-person personal interview shall be  
          conducted if requested by an applicant, and would remove the  
          requirement for a county to verify "by personal contact" that an  
          applicant is incapable of acting on his or her own behalf before  
          CalWORKs aid is authorized.


          Fiscal  
          Impact:  
            Interviews via telephonic/electronic means  :  Potentially  
            significant one-time and near-term non-reimbursable local  
            costs for equipment, staffing, and/or training to implement  
            new processes. To the extent conducting interviews by  
            telephone or electronic means results in administrative  







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            efficiencies could result in significant ongoing future cost  
            savings. 

            CalWORKs benefits/administration  :  Potential increases or  
            decreases in CalWORKs benefits and administration costs  
            (General Fund) to the extent conducting interviews by  
            telephone or electronic means, including removing the  
            verification requirement by personal contact for persons  
            unable to act on their own behalf, results in a greater or  
            lesser number of applications for aid granted. To the extent  
            the bill removes barriers and/or delays in applying for and  
            being granted aid, CalWORKs program costs could increase.  
            However, to the extent reduced utilization of in-person  
            interviews prevents or delays the receipt of verification  
            and/or clarification, applications that otherwise may have  
            been approved could potentially be delayed or denied. 


          Background:  Existing law provides that no applicant shall be granted  
          CalWORKs benefits until he or she is first personally  
          interviewed by the office of the county department or state  
          staff for patients in state hospitals. Under existing law, if an  
          applicant is incapable of acting in his or her own behalf, the  
          county department is required to verify this fact by personal  
          contact with the applicant before aid is authorized. (Welfare  
          and Institutions Code (WIC) § 11052.5.) 
          Existing state regulations require a face-to-face interview with  
          a CalWORKs applicant prior to the granting of aid. (DSS Manual  
          of Policy and Procedures 40-131.11.) 


          Proposed  
          Law:  This bill would enact the "County Option of Efficient  
          Interviewing of CalWORKs Applicants Act of 2016," as follows:
           Provides that in lieu of an in-person personal interview, a  
            county may elect to conduct the personal interviews for  
            CalWORKs applicants telephonically or through other electronic  
            means. 
           Specifies that an in-person personal interview shall be  
            conducted if requested by an applicant.
           For a CalWORKs applicant incapable of acting in his or her own  
            behalf, removes the requirement for a county to verify that  
            fact by "personal contact" with the applicant before  
            authorizing CalWORKs aid, but retains the requirement to  







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            verify the fact with the applicant.


          Prior  
          Legislation:  SB 312 (Pan) 2015 was similar to this measure but  
          mandated that counties conduct personal interviews through  
          telephonic or electronic means. This bill was held on the  
          Suspense File of this Committee.
          SB 297 (McGuire) 2015 required the DSS to establish an  
          electronic signature storage hub to enable counties to record  
          telephonic and electronic signatures during a CalFresh  
          interview. This bill additionally required county eligibility  
          workers to conduct a CalFresh application interview by  
          telephone. This bill was held on the Suspense File of this  
          Committee, and was subsequently amended to address an unrelated  
          issue.

          AB 1970 (Skinner) 2012 would have required counties to use  
          electronic methods of communication for the application and  
          recertification process in CalWORKs and CalFresh upon applicant  
          or recipient request, and would have established alternatives to  
          in-person interviews for applications and redeterminations. This  
          bill was held on the Suspense File of this Committee.


          Staff  
          Comments:  By authorizing county human services agencies to  
          conduct "personal interviews" for CalWORKs applicants by  
          telephonic or other electronic means, this bill could result in  
          increased non-reimbursable local costs to the extent county  
          agencies incur up-front costs for equipment, staffing, and/or  
          training to implement the process of conducting interviews via  
          telephone or electronic means, which is undefined. Staff notes  
          that to the extent conducting interviews by telephone or  
          electronic means results in administrative efficiencies,  
          counties could realize significant future cost savings. 
          The net impact of this bill on the CalWORKs program is  
          unquantifiable, as it would be dependent on numerous factors  
          including but not limited to the decisions and actions of 58  
          counties, the current level of efficiency and effectiveness of  
          the application/interview process in each county, and the  
          behavior of CalWORKs applicants in each county. This bill could  
          result in increases and/or decreases in the provision of  
          CalWORKs aid of an unknown, but potentially significant amount. 







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          Current state regulations require a face-to-face interview with  
          a CalWORKs applicant prior to granting aid. To the extent  
          conducting interviews by telephone or electronic means results  
          in applicants receiving benefits sooner than they otherwise  
          would have under existing law due to the removal of existing  
          barriers to application, CalWORKs program costs could increase.  
          However, to the extent the bill results in fewer face-to-face  
          interviews that result in failure or delays in verifying or  
          clarifying a condition of eligibility, additional applications  
          that otherwise may have been approved could potentially be  
          denied.


          Recommended amendments: 


             1.   To remove the potential state-reimbursable mandate  
               created by requiring a county to provide an in-person  
               personal interview at the request of an applicant, staff  
               recommends the following amendment:


               On page 2, strike out lines 23-24 and insert:


               WIC 11052.5 (d)  If a county elects to conduct the personal  
               interview as required under subdivision (a) telephonically  
               or through other electronic means, the county shall conduct  
               an in-person personal interview in lieu of an interview  
               through telephonic or electronic means if requested by an  
               applicant.


           


             2.   Staff additionally recommends re-inserting the  
               requirement that verification be made by personal contact  
               with an applicant incapable of acting in his or her own  
               behalf, as follows: 









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               On page 2, in line 17 after "fact" insert:


               WIC 11052.5 (b) In lieu of an in-person personal interview  
               as required under subdivision (a), the county may elect to  
               conduct the interview required by this section  
               telephonically or through other electronic means. If an  
               applicant is incapable of acting in his or her own behalf,  
               the county department shall verify this fact  by personal  
               contact  with the applicant before aid is authorized. As  
               used in this section, the term public assistance does not  
               include health care as provided in Chapter 7.




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