BILL ANALYSIS Ó SENATE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS Senator Ricardo Lara, Chair 2015 - 2016 Regular Session SB 947 (Pan) - Public assistance: personal interviews ----------------------------------------------------------------- | | | | | | ----------------------------------------------------------------- |--------------------------------+--------------------------------| | | | |Version: March 31, 2016 |Policy Vote: Human Services | | | 3-0 | | | | |--------------------------------+--------------------------------| | | | |Urgency: No |Mandate: Yes | | | | |--------------------------------+--------------------------------| | | | |Hearing Date: April 18, 2016 |Consultant: Jolie Onodera | | | | ----------------------------------------------------------------- This bill meets the criteria for referral to the Suspense File. Bill Summary: SB 947 would authorize county human services agencies to conduct personal interviews for CalWORKs eligibility applicants telephonically or through electronic means. This bill would provide that an in-person personal interview shall be conducted if requested by an applicant, and would remove the requirement for a county to verify "by personal contact" that an applicant is incapable of acting on his or her own behalf before CalWORKs aid is authorized. Fiscal Impact: Interviews via telephonic/electronic means : Potentially significant one-time and near-term non-reimbursable local costs for equipment, staffing, and/or training to implement new processes. To the extent conducting interviews by telephone or electronic means results in administrative SB 947 (Pan) Page 1 of ? efficiencies could result in significant ongoing future cost savings. CalWORKs benefits/administration : Potential increases or decreases in CalWORKs benefits and administration costs (General Fund) to the extent conducting interviews by telephone or electronic means, including removing the verification requirement by personal contact for persons unable to act on their own behalf, results in a greater or lesser number of applications for aid granted. To the extent the bill removes barriers and/or delays in applying for and being granted aid, CalWORKs program costs could increase. However, to the extent reduced utilization of in-person interviews prevents or delays the receipt of verification and/or clarification, applications that otherwise may have been approved could potentially be delayed or denied. Background: Existing law provides that no applicant shall be granted CalWORKs benefits until he or she is first personally interviewed by the office of the county department or state staff for patients in state hospitals. Under existing law, if an applicant is incapable of acting in his or her own behalf, the county department is required to verify this fact by personal contact with the applicant before aid is authorized. (Welfare and Institutions Code (WIC) § 11052.5.) Existing state regulations require a face-to-face interview with a CalWORKs applicant prior to the granting of aid. (DSS Manual of Policy and Procedures 40-131.11.) Proposed Law: This bill would enact the "County Option of Efficient Interviewing of CalWORKs Applicants Act of 2016," as follows: Provides that in lieu of an in-person personal interview, a county may elect to conduct the personal interviews for CalWORKs applicants telephonically or through other electronic means. Specifies that an in-person personal interview shall be conducted if requested by an applicant. For a CalWORKs applicant incapable of acting in his or her own behalf, removes the requirement for a county to verify that fact by "personal contact" with the applicant before authorizing CalWORKs aid, but retains the requirement to SB 947 (Pan) Page 2 of ? verify the fact with the applicant. Prior Legislation: SB 312 (Pan) 2015 was similar to this measure but mandated that counties conduct personal interviews through telephonic or electronic means. This bill was held on the Suspense File of this Committee. SB 297 (McGuire) 2015 required the DSS to establish an electronic signature storage hub to enable counties to record telephonic and electronic signatures during a CalFresh interview. This bill additionally required county eligibility workers to conduct a CalFresh application interview by telephone. This bill was held on the Suspense File of this Committee, and was subsequently amended to address an unrelated issue. AB 1970 (Skinner) 2012 would have required counties to use electronic methods of communication for the application and recertification process in CalWORKs and CalFresh upon applicant or recipient request, and would have established alternatives to in-person interviews for applications and redeterminations. This bill was held on the Suspense File of this Committee. Staff Comments: By authorizing county human services agencies to conduct "personal interviews" for CalWORKs applicants by telephonic or other electronic means, this bill could result in increased non-reimbursable local costs to the extent county agencies incur up-front costs for equipment, staffing, and/or training to implement the process of conducting interviews via telephone or electronic means, which is undefined. Staff notes that to the extent conducting interviews by telephone or electronic means results in administrative efficiencies, counties could realize significant future cost savings. The net impact of this bill on the CalWORKs program is unquantifiable, as it would be dependent on numerous factors including but not limited to the decisions and actions of 58 counties, the current level of efficiency and effectiveness of the application/interview process in each county, and the behavior of CalWORKs applicants in each county. This bill could result in increases and/or decreases in the provision of CalWORKs aid of an unknown, but potentially significant amount. SB 947 (Pan) Page 3 of ? Current state regulations require a face-to-face interview with a CalWORKs applicant prior to granting aid. To the extent conducting interviews by telephone or electronic means results in applicants receiving benefits sooner than they otherwise would have under existing law due to the removal of existing barriers to application, CalWORKs program costs could increase. However, to the extent the bill results in fewer face-to-face interviews that result in failure or delays in verifying or clarifying a condition of eligibility, additional applications that otherwise may have been approved could potentially be denied. Recommended amendments: 1. To remove the potential state-reimbursable mandate created by requiring a county to provide an in-person personal interview at the request of an applicant, staff recommends the following amendment: On page 2, strike out lines 23-24 and insert: WIC 11052.5 (d) If a county elects to conduct the personal interview as required under subdivision (a) telephonically or through other electronic means, the county shall conduct an in-person personal interview in lieu of an interview through telephonic or electronic means if requested by an applicant. 2. Staff additionally recommends re-inserting the requirement that verification be made by personal contact with an applicant incapable of acting in his or her own behalf, as follows: SB 947 (Pan) Page 4 of ? On page 2, in line 17 after "fact" insert: WIC 11052.5 (b) In lieu of an in-person personal interview as required under subdivision (a), the county may elect to conduct the interview required by this section telephonically or through other electronic means. If an applicant is incapable of acting in his or her own behalf, the county department shall verify this fact by personal contact with the applicant before aid is authorized. As used in this section, the term public assistance does not include health care as provided in Chapter 7. -- END --