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          SENATE COMMITTEE ON HUMAN SERVICES
                             Senator Mike McGuire, Chair
                                2015 - 2016  Regular 

          Bill No:                           SB 947     Hearing Date:     
          March 29, 2016
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          |Author:    |Pan                                                  |
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          |Urgency:   |No                     |Fiscal:    |No               |
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          |Consultant:|Taryn Smith                                          |
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                  Subject:  Public assistance:  personal interviews


           SUMMARY
           
          This bill authorizes county human services agencies to conduct a  
          personal interview of CalWORKs applicants telephonically or  
          through electronic means. The bill requires a personal interview  
          to be conducted if requested by an applicant or recipient. It  
          deletes the requirement that the county department verify an  
          applicant is incapable of acting on his or her own behalf.


           ABSTRACT
           
          Existing law: 
          
             1)   Establishes the federal Temporary Assistance for Needy  
               Families (TANF) program, which permits states to implement  
               the program under a state plan. (42 USC § 601 et seq.)


             2)   Establishes in state law the California Work Opportunity  
               and Responsibility to Kids (CalWORKs) program to provide  
               cash assistance and other social services for low-income  
               families through the federal Temporary Assistance for Needy  
               Families (TANF) program. Under CalWORKs, each county  
               provides assistance through a combination of state, county  
               and federal TANF funds. (WIC 10530)








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             3)   Prohibits an applicant from being granted public  
               assistance under CalWORKs until he or she is personally  
               interviewed by the county human services agency or state  
               hospital staff. (WIC 11052.5)

             4)   Requires the personal interview to be conducted promptly  
               following the application for CalWORKs assistance. If an  
               applicant is incapable of acting in his or her own behalf,  
               the county department shall verify this fact by personal  
               contact with the applicant before aid is authorized. (WIC  
               11052.5)

             5)   Establishes under federal law the Supplemental Nutrition  
               Assistance Program (SNAP) within the US Department of  
               Agriculture (USDA) to promote the general welfare and to  
               safeguard the health and wellbeing of the nation's  
               population by raising the levels of nutrition among  
               low-income households. It establishes SNAP eligibility  
               requirements, including income that is at or below 130  
               percent of the federal poverty level and is determined to  
               be a substantial limiting factor in permitting a recipient  
               to obtain a more nutritious diet. (7 CFR 271.1; 7 CFR  
               273.9)


             6)   Establishes in California statute the CalFresh program  
               to administer the provision of federal SNAP benefits to  
               families and individuals meeting specified criteria. (WIC  
               18900 et seq.)

          This bill: 
          
             1)   Names this bill the County Option of Efficient  
               Interviewing of CalWORKs Applicants Act of 2016.

             2)   Deletes the requirement that applicants for some social  
               services, including child welfare, adult protective and in  
               home support services, shall not be granted those services  
               until he or she is first personally interviewed by the  
               county human services agency or state staff for patients in  
               state hospitals. 










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             3)   Permits that, in lieu of an in-person personal  
               interview, county human services agencies, or state staff  
               or patients in state hospitals, may elect to conduct an  
               interview of CalWORKs applicants telephonically or through  
               other electronic means. 


             4)   Deletes the requirement that, if an applicant is  
               incapable of acting in his or her own behalf, the county  
               department shall verify this fact by personal contact with  
               the applicant before aid is authorized.


             5)   Requires a personal interview to be conducted if  
               requested by an applicant. 



           FISCAL IMPACT
           
          This bill has not been analyzed by a fiscal committee.


           BACKGROUND AND DISCUSSION
           
          According to the author, the counties that have set up the  
          infrastructure to do telephone interviews for CalFresh  
          applicants should have the option to do the same for CalWORKs  
          applicants if it would achieve administrative efficiency.  The  
          author also states the cost of transportation can be very  
          burdensome, especially for families living in rural California.

          As noted by one of the bill's sponsors, the Coalition of  
          California Welfare Rights Organization, current law was "enacted  
          before the advent of modern tools that allow for interviews to  
          be completed and, recorded and stored electronically in the case  
          file.  Today, these interviews can be completed telephonically,  
          by video or electronically in ways that are more efficient  
          without compromising the integrity of the program."  

          According to CDSS, if SB 947 were signed into law, CalWORKs  
          applicants will still be required to sign their application  
          forms and submit fingerprints and photographs to the county  
          human services agencies.  









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          CalWORKs
          
          According to California Public Policy Institute, 21% of  
          Californians were living in poverty and 23.9% of California's  
          children were living in poverty in 2013. During and after the  
          Great Recession, California saw growing rates of childhood deep  
          poverty - those living below 50 percent of the federal poverty  
          line. One of California's most essential anti-poverty strategies  
          is the CalWORKs program, which provides cash assistance to  
          approximately 540,000 families - including more than 1 million  
          children, according to 2014 federal data. 

          CalWORKs implements the federal TANF program in California.  In  
          addition to temporary cash assistance to meet basic family  
          needs, CalWORKs provides education, employment and training  
          programs.  CDSS is the designated state agency responsibility  
          for program supervision at the state level.  The counties are  
          responsible for administering the caseloads at the local level.   
          The CalWORKs program is funded with a mix of federal, state, and  
          county funds. 

          State law provides for a cumulative 48-month lifetime limit on  
          cash aid for adults.  During those 48 months, adults may receive  
          a total of 24 months of Welfare-to-Work (WTW) services and  
          activities.  WTW activities include subsidized and unsubsidized  
          employment, community service, adult basic education, job  
          skills, training, mental health counseling, substance abuse  
          treatment and other activities necessary to assist recipients in  
          obtaining employment. Once the 24 months of WTW activities have  
          been exhausted, adults must meet the stricter federal work  
          participation requirements (20, 30, or 35 hours weekly,  
          depending on family composition) unless they are exempt or  
          receive an extension. Children of adults who exhaust the  
          48-month lifetime limit may continue to receive cash aid, if  
          otherwise eligible, up to age 18.  

          Use of telephone Interviews for CalFresh 













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          Under a federal USDA waiver,<1> and under current regulatory  
          requirements,<2> California's county human services agencies  
          have the option to allow CalFresh applicants to satisfy the  
          interview requirement over the telephone rather than mandating a  
          face-to-face interview.  

          In 2009, CDSS informed county welfare departments that they had  
          the option of waiving the face-to-face interview for CalFresh  
          applicants and recipients at initial application,  
          recertification, or both.<3>  In 2012, CDSS issued an All County  
          Letter stating, "As an element of program simplification and as  
          part of CDSS commitment to improving access, offering the option  
          of a telephone interview in lieu of a face-to-face interview  
          will now be required at intake and recertification."  The same  
          ACL reported that waiving the requirement for a face-to-face  
          interview "has not negatively affected payment error rates, is  
          beneficial for CalFresh applicants and recipients, and provides  
          administrative relief for county staff.<4>

          According to data from USDA, overpayments to Cal Fresh  
          recipients in California have not shown significant increase  
          since telephone interviews were initiated in 2009: 


           --------------------------------- 
          |   Year   | CalFresh Overpayment |
          |          |         Rate         |
          |----------+----------------------|
          |   2009   |        3.07 %        |
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          |   2010   |        3.56%         |
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          |   2011   |        2.65 %        |
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          |   2012   |        3.06%         |
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          |   2013   |        2.82%         |
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          <1> USDA Food and Nutrition Services Waiver #2130007,  
          implemented August 1, 2013.
          <2> US 7 CFR 273.2(e)(3) and California Manual of Policies and  
          Procedures Section 63-300.46
          <3> CDSS All County Letter #09-62, October 23, 2009
          <4> CDSS All County Letter #12-26, May 31, 2012








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          |   2014   |4.14%                 |
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          Online Application for Medi-Cal

          California's version of the federal Medicaid program, Medi-Cal,  
          services low-income individuals, including but not limited to:  
          families, seniors, persons with disabilities, children in foster  
          care, pregnant women, and childless adults with incomes below  
          138% of federal poverty level.  Applications for Medi-Cal  
          benefits may be filed online, in person or by mail.  All  
          applicants are required to submit some signed documents, so  
          there is still paperwork component of the Medi-Cal application  
          process.  

          Related legislation:

           Senate Bill 297 (McGuire, 2015)  had provisions that would have  
          facilitated electronic verification of eligibility for certain  
          means-tested public benefits programs; clarified when an  
          eligibility worker should conduct a telephone interview;  
          required the CDSS to issue guidance for recording and storing  
          electronic and telephonic signatures; and required CDSS to  
          coordinate with county human services agencies to make available  
          standard technological solutions with the capacity to store  
          telephonic and electronic signatures.  The bill was held in  
          Senate Appropriations Committee.  

           Senate Bill 312 (Pan, 2014)  would have authorized the county  
          human services agency or state hospital staff to conduct a  
          personal interview of CalWORKs applicants telephonically or  
          through electronic means. The bill would have required a  
          face-to-face interview to be conducted if requested by an  
          applicant or recipient. This bill was held in the Senate  
          Appropriations Committee. 
          
           Assembly Bill 1970 (Skinner, 2012)  sought to modernize and  
          streamline the administration of, and remove barriers to  
          participation in, social services programs, including removing  
          the face-to-face interview requirement for CalWORKs and CalFresh  
          as a condition of receipt of aid.  AB 1970 was held in the  
          Senate Appropriations Committee.  
           









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           AB 6 (Fuentes, Chapter 501, Statutes of 2011)  removed the  
          CalFresh fingerprinting requirement, modified reporting  
          requirements from quarterly to semi-annually, and made other  
          changes.

           AB 231 (Steinberg, Chapter 743, Statutes of 2003)  permitted  
          counties to exempt a household from complying with the  
          face-to-face interview required by a CalFresh applicant, in  
          addition to other policy changes.

           COMMENTS
                                            
           There is precedence for allowing telephone interviews in lieu of  
          face-to-face interviews to determine eligibility for other  
          social services. Expanding the option for CalWORKs applicants to  
          be interviewed over the phone would take advantage of modern  
          communication systems.  It would also be consistent with other  
          efforts to modernize statewide services, such as telephone  
          interviews for CalFresh and online applications for Medi-Cal  
          services.  

          For reasons listed below, the committee recommends the following  
          amendments to the bill. 

          Amendment #1
          The bill proposes to delete reference to "Chapter 5 (commencing  
          with Welfare and Institutions Code Section 13000)," which would  
          remove the requirement for county human services agencies to  
          interview applicants for some social services, including child  
          welfare, adult protective and in home support services.  The  
          author states that he never intended to delete that requirement.  
          It appears deleting reference to Chapter 5 (commencing with  
          Section 13000) was a drafting error.  

          The committee recommends the following amendment to WIC Section  
          11052.5 (a): 
          An applicant shall not be granted public assistance under  
          Chapters 2 (commencing with Section 11200)  and 5.1 (commencing  
          with Section 13000)  until he or she is first personally  
          interviewed by the office of the county human services agency or  
          state staff for patients in state hospitals. 

          Amendment #2
          Current law, WIC Section 11052.5(b) requires an interview to be  









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          conducted "promptly" following the application for assistance.  
          Similarly, Section 11052.5(c) states that the interview "shall  
          occur within seven days" after the application is received.  For  
          purposes of clarity, it may be beneficial to delete the language  
          in section (b), as shown below. Additionally, as currently  
          drafted, SB 947 deletes the requirement that if an applicant is  
          incapable of acting in her or her own behalf, the county human  
          services agency must verify this fact by personal contact with  
          the applicant before aid is authorized.  Conducting the  
          verification by personal contact may not be necessary, but it  
          could be performed via telephone or other electronic means. 

          The committee recommends the following amendment to WIC  
          11052.5(b): 
          In lieu of an in-person personal interview as required under  
          subdivision (a), the county may elect to conduct the interview  
          required by this section telephonically or through other  
          electronic means.  The interview shall be conducted promptly  
          following the application for assistance.   If an applicant is  
          incapable of acting in his or her own behalf, the county  
          department shall verify this fact with the applicant before aid  
          is authorized  . As used in this section, the term public  
          assistance does not include health care as provided by Chapter 7  
          (commencing with Section 14000).

          Amendment #3
          WIC Section 11052.5(d) requires a personal interview to be  
          conducted, if requested by an applicant.  The committee  
          recommends clarifying that an "in-person" interview may be  
          requested by an applicant. 

          The committee recommends the following amendment to WIC  
          11052.5(d):
          (d) A  n in-person  personal interview shall be conducted if  
          requested by an applicant.


           POSITIONS
                                           
          Support:       
               Coalition of California Welfare Rights Organizations  
          (Sponsor)
               County Welfare Directors Association of California  
          (Co-sponsor)









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               California Association of Food Banks
               California Food Policy Advocates
               Children's defense Fund - California
               Courage Campaign 
               National Association of Social Workers
               Santa Clara County Board of Supervisors 
               St Anthony's Foundation


          Oppose:   

                    None received.
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