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                          SENATE COMMITTEE ON Public Safety
                             Senator John Vasconcellos, Chair   S
                                1999-2000 Regular Session       B

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          SB 2052 (Schiff)                                      2
          As Introduced February 25, 2000
          Hearing date:  May 2, 2000
          Penal Code and Welfare and Institutions Code
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                              FIREARMS AND DEADLY WEAPONS

          SEIZURE BY LAW ENFORCEMENT FROM (1) DOMESTIC VIOLENCE INCIDENTS,  
 
                    AND, (2) WIC 5150 MENTAL HEALTH OBSERVATIONS  


                                       HISTORY

          Source:  City of Burbank

          Prior Legislation: SB 1587 (Scott) - Chapter 587, Sts. 1999
                       AB 363 (Nolan) - Chapter 863, Sts. 1991

          Support: Burbank Chief of Police; Burbank City Attorney; City of  
                   San Gabriel; Sacramento County Sheriff; California  
                   State Sheriffs' Association; Los Angeles County  
                   District Attorney; California Peace Chiefs Association;  
                   California Peace Officers' Association

          Opposition:None known


                                       KEY ISSUE
           
          (1) EXISTING LAW PROVIDES THAT A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY MUST  




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          RETURN A FIREARM OR OTHER DEADLY WEAPON SEIZED IN A DOMESTIC  
          VIOLENCE INCIDENT TO THE OWNER UNLESS A PETITION IS FILED WITHIN  
          10 DAYS FOR A JUDICIAL HEARING TO DETERMINE IF RETURN WOULD  
          ENDANGER THE VICTIM OR REPORTING PERSON.

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          SHOULD THE TIME WITHIN WHICH THE POLICE MUST FILE SUCH A PETITION BE  
          INCREASED FROM 10 DAYS TO 60 DAYS?

          (2) EXISTING LAW PROVIDES THAT WHERE A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER  
          SEIZES A WEAPON (INCLUDING A FIREARM) FROM A PERSON DETAINED FOR  
          EXAMINATION OF HIS OR HER MENTAL CONDITION, THE OFFICER'S AGENCY  
          MUST RETURN THE WEAPON WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THE PERSON'S RELEASE FROM  
          TREATMENT OR EXAMINATION UNLESS THE AGENCY PETITIONS THE COURT TO  
          DETERMINE IF RETURN OF THE WEAPON WOULD ENDANGER THE PERSON OR  
          OTHERS.

          SHOULD THE TIME FOR FILING A PETITION BY LAW ENFORCEMENT TO PREVENT  
          RETURN OF THE WEAPONS BE EXTENDED FROM 30 DAYS TO 60 DAYS FOLLOWING  
          RELEASE OF THE PERSON?


                                       PURPOSE
          
          The purpose of this bill is:

          (1) to increase from 10 days to 60 days, the time within which  
          the police must file a petition for a court hearing to determine  
          if a firearm or other deadly weapon seized in a domestic  
          violence incident should not be returned to the owner. 
          
          (2) to increase from 30 days to 60 days the time within which  
          the police must file a petition for a court hearing to determine  
          if a firearm or other deadly weapon seized from a person  
          detained for investigation of his or her mental status should be  
          returned.

          (1) Domestic Violence Incidents:
          




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           Existing law  provides that a peace officer "who is at the scene  
          of a domestic violence incident involving a threat to human life  
          or a physical assault, shall take temporary custody of any  
          firearm or deadly weapon in plain sight or discovered pursuant  
          to a consensual search as necessary for the protection of the .  
          . . officer or other person . . ."  (Pen. Code  12028.5, subd.  
          (b).)

           Existing law  provides that the peace officer shall give the  
          weapon<1> owner a receipt and instructions as to recovery of the  
          weapon.  (Pen. Code  12028.5, subd. (b).)

           Exiting law  provides that where the weapon is not held for  
          evidence in a criminal matter, or where was possessed illegally,  
          the firearm shall be made available for the owner between 48  
          hours and 72 hours after seizure.  

           Existing law  provides that where the law enforcement agency  
          believes that return of the firearm would be likely to endanger  
          the victim or person reporting the underlying incident, the  
          following procedures shall occur:

              The agency must, within 10 days, notify the owner and  
               initiate a court petition to determine if the weapon should  
               not be returned to the owner.

              The agency must inform the owner that he or she has 30 days  
               to confirm his or her desire for a hearing to contest  
               forfeiture of the weapon.

              Hearing must be held within 30 days upon the request of the  
               owner.

              The weapon shall be returned to the owner unless the agency  
               shows by clear and convincing evidence that return of the  
               weapon would endanger the victim or reporting party of the  
               domestic violence incident.



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          <1> For purposes of this analysis, "weapon" shall mean a firearm  
          or other deadly weapon.



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           This bill  would extend the time within which the law enforcement  
          agency must file a petition to prohibit return of the weapon  
          from 10 days to 60 days.

          (2) Detention for Mental Examinations:
          
           Existing law  provides that where any person is detained for  
          examination of his or her mental condition, or who has been  
          admitted for observation or treatment as dangerous to self or  
          others, or who has communicated to a therapist a threat to harm  
          others, or who has been found not guilty of many offenses by  
          reason of insanity, and that person has a deadly weapon  
          (including a firearm) in his or her possession, the peace  
          officer shall take temporary custody of the weapon.  (Welf. &  
          Inst. Code  8102, subd. (a).)

           Existing law  provides that the officer must inform the detained  
          person of the procedures for return of the person's weapon.   
          (Pen. Code  8102, subd. (b).)

           Existing law  provides that upon release from treatment of a  
          person detained for examination of his or her mental condition,  
          the law enforcement agency shall have 30 days to petition the  
          superior court for a hearing to determine whether return of the  
          weapon would endanger the person or others.  (Pen. Code  8102,  
          subd. (c).)

              The health facility must notify the law enforcement agency  
               of the release of the person; and the facility must notify  
               the person of the procedure for return of the weapon.

              The agency must inform the owner that he or she has 30 days  
               to confirm his or her desire for a hearing to contest  
               forfeiture of the weapon.

              Hearing must be held within 30 days upon the request of the  
               owner.

              The weapon shall be returned to the owner unless agency  
               shows by clear and convincing evidence that return of the  




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               weapon would endanger the victim or reporting party of the  
               domestic violence incident.

           This bill  would extend the time within which the law enforcement  
          agency must file a petition to prohibit return of the weapon,  
          and to notify the person of the petition, from 30 days to 60  
          days.

                                      COMMENTS

          1.  Need for This Bill  

          According to the sponsor, the City of Burbank:

               Following the seizure of a weapon at the scene of a  
               domestic violence incident or from a person detained  
               for up to 72 hours per [Welfare and Institutions] Code  
               section 5150 for evaluation of the person's mental  
               condition, this bill will provide that local law  
               enforcement agencies (and city attorneys and county  
               counsels) would have 60 days rather than 10 days from  
               seizure (domestic violence) or 30 days from the  
               person's release (sec. 5150 detention) to initiate a  
               petition to the superior court to determine if the  
               weapon should be returned to its owner.

               Requiring police agencies to return weapons seized  
               from domestic violence incidents within 10 days or 30  
               days, in the absence of a court hearing, is an onerous  
               burden for the agency.   Such a return may also create  
               a significant public danger.

               The law is unworkable in a busy police department.   
               Communication between the mental health facilities and  
               police departments is poor to non-existent.  Many  
               times the police are required to return weapons to  
               people who in the professional judgement and  
               experience of officers continue to be a danger to  
               themselves and others.  Even if a petition can be  
               filed within the requisite 10 or 30-day period, the  




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               burden [on the police] is high.  Officers are  
               sometimes forced to subject themselves and their  
               departments to civil liability (by holding weapons in  
               spite of the legal requirements) in order to safeguard  
               the community.







































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          2.  SB 218 (Solis) - Ch. 662, Sts. 1999, Amended the Domestic  
            Violence Weapon Confiscation Law  

          SB 218 required, rather than allowed, peace officers to  
          confiscate a weapon at the scene of a domestic violence  
          incident.  The bill also included sexual assault in the  
          definition of domestic violence.  

          As noted in the analysis of SB 218, there appears to be  
          significant data concerning the impact of firearms in domestic  
          violence situations, and this bill appears to be intended to  
          address this particular and serious correlation.<2>   
          Nevertheless, because this bill would increase the time that the  
          police may hold a weapon by 50 days, these provisions could  
          impact law-abiding citizens, such as victims who lawfully  
          possess firearms and who will ultimately be given their weapons  
          back by the police without a hearing, or after a judicial  
          hearing.  It could be argued that a victim of domestic violence,  
          especially a person who has established his or her own  
          residence, might have a particular need for a weapon for  
          self-defense.

          WHERE A WEAPON HAS BEEN CONFISCATED IN A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE  
          INCIDENT, AND THE WEAPON IS NEITHER BOOKED AS EVIDENCE NOR  
          POSSESSED ILLEGALLY PRIOR TO THE SEIZURE, SHOULD A LAW  
          ENFORCEMENT AGENCY BE ALLOWED TO RETAIN THE WEAPON FOR UP TO 60  
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          <2>   See, e.g., the following internet sources:  
          http://www.childmmc.edu/help/famviol.htm;  "Homicide reports  
          submitted by local police agencies across the country for the  
          years 1976-92 involving 36,000 female victims ages 18-34 were  
          analyzed to determine patterns and trends in lethal domestic  
          violence directed against women. . . . The analysis revealed  
          that among women in this age group, the victim was the  
          murderer's wife or ex-wife, or was otherwise intimately  
          involved, in 48 percent of those cases in which the  
          victim-offender relationship could be determined, and in 34  
          percent of cases overall.  The vast majority of these homicides  
          were committed with firearms." (http:  
          //www.jrsa.org/cgi-bin/w3-msql/database/search _i.htm) (http: //  
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          DAYS, NOT 10 DAYS, BEFORE RETURNING THE WEAPON OR PETITIONING  
          THE COURT TO BAR RETURN?

          NOTE:  Section 12028.5 technically requires return of the weapon  
          within 48 hours of the incident but no later than 72 hours after  
          the seizure.  However, if a weapon is not returned, the local  
          law enforcement agency shall inform the owner that the weapon is  
          not to be returned and then file the a petition in court to  
          determine if the weapon should be returned.  The practical  
          effect of the existing 10 day period during which the agency can  
          file the petition may be that weapons are not returned until the  
          10 days has expired, rather than within 48 to 72 hours after  
          seizure.  If so, the practical effect of this bill could be that  
          weapons will not be returned until 60 days have elapsed from the  
          incident.  

          3.  Background Information Refers Only to 5150 Patients.   
            Governing Statute May Cover Other Persons:  Possible  
            Clarifying Amendment  

          The sponsor refers only to persons held for psychiatric  
          observation for 72 hours under Welfare and Institutions Code  
          section 5150.  However, it appears that the statute could also  
          cover persons held involuntarily for 14 days or 180 days under  
          sections 5250 through 5300, as such persons are initially  
          detained for examination, admitted to a facility, and then  
          eventually released.  It may be that the majority of such  
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          generally interpret the statute as covering only "5150" patients  
          who are not detained beyond 72 hours.  The Committee may wish to  
          ask witnesses about the range of the governing statutes.  (See  
          Comment #4, below, as to the inconsistencies in the governing  
          statutes in this area.)  The law could be clarified by stating  
          that the provisions relating to return of a firearm only apply  
          to persons who have been detained for examination, but who were  
          released within 72 hours.  Regardless, current law prohibits  
          persons held beyond the initial 5150 72-hour observation period  
          from possessing a firearm for five years.

          4.  Related Laws Barring Firearm Possession by Persons  
            Involuntarily Held for Psychiatric Treatment or Evaluation -  
            Possible Conflicts and Inconsistencies  

          A person held under Welfare and Institutions Code section 5150  
          (the Lanterman-Petris-Short Act) as a danger to self or others  
          for no more than 72 hours may not own a firearm for five years.   
          However, AB 1587 (Scott) - Ch. 587, Sts. 1999, provided that a  
          5150 patient may restore the right to possess a firearm if he or  
          she requests a hearing at which the district attorney would bear  
          the burden of presenting evidence and proving that the former  
          cannot safely possess a gun.<3>  (Welf. & Inst. Code  8103.)   
          An LPS patient who has been required to undergo intensive  
          treatment for 14 days pursuant to a probable cause hearing, or  
          for 180 days after a judicial hearing, may not own a firearm for  
          five years unless the person proves by preponderance of evidence  
          that he or she may safely possess a firearm.  (Welf. & Inst.  
          Code  8103, subd. (g).)
           
           If an LPS patient possesses a firearm without obtaining judicial  
          permission to do so, he or she is guilty of a misdemeanor,  
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          <3>  Existing law  provides that any person who has been found  
          guilty of specified serious offenses by reason of insanity may  
          not possess a firearm.  (Welf. & Inst. Code  8103, subd. (b).)   
           Existing law  provides that any person who has been found guilty  
          of lesser criminal offenses by reason of insanity may not  
          possess a firearm until sanity has been restored.  (Welf. &  
          Inst. Code  8103, subd. (c).)











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          punishable by not more than 1 year in the county jail, or a  
          felony, punishable by imprisonment in state prison for 16  
          months, 2 years or 3 years.  (Welf. & Inst. Code  8103, subd.  
          (i).)<4>  

           This bill concerns a process whereby a law enforcement agency  
          must return a firearm to a person who has been released from a  
          health facility unless the agency initiates a petition to deny  
          return of the weapon.  This presents the odd possibility that  
          the police must return a firearm to a person who is legally  
          prohibited from possessing the gun.  The police could be  
          required to give a person a firearm and arrest him or her for  
          illegally possessing it.


          SHOULD THE STATUTES GOVERNING CONFISCATION OF WEAPONS FROM  
          PEOPLE WHO ARE DETAINED FOR EXAMINATION OF THEIR MENTAL STATUS  
          AND THE STATUTES PROHIBITING SUCH PERSONS FROM POSSESSING A  
          FIREARM FOR FIVE YEARS BE HARMONIZED?

          SHOULD THE LAW PROVIDE THAT WHERE TWO PETITIONS HAVE BEEN FILED  
          CONCERNING THE RIGHT OF A FORMER 5150 PATIENT TO OWN A FIREARM,  
          THOSE MATTERS SHOULD BE CONSOLIDATED?




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          <4> California law prohibits many classes of people from owning  
          firearms.  The most usual prohibition is a lifetime firearm  
          possession ban for any person convicted of a felony.  There are  
          lesser prohibitions for persons convicted of various  
          misdemeanors and minors adjudicated to have committed specified  
          offenses.  (Pen. Code  12021.)